We live in a deterministic, lawful system and if we don’t keep the laws of the system we punish ourselves!
Opinion on the Internet about Humanity’s suffering:
“Every time man “messes up” bigtime, God has to intervene, to straighten out our sorry carcasses. Think of the fallen angels hybrids of Noah’s day, and, of course, the societal permissiveness of Sodom & Gomorrah. Stay tuned, folks, this could get very interesting, very fast!”
We can say it this way, but this message will only reach a small portion of people who identify themselves as religious.
But we can explain the same through Nature’s system, according to Nature’s unbending, strict laws that sustain balance and homeostasis - without which life is not possible. We can say that Nature has a singular, predetermined plan of evolution that relentlessly progresses towards a final, most optimal goal we all need to reach.
Instead of “God straightening, punishing us” we can say that we actually punish ourselves by not learning, ignoring, breaking the Natural laws of integration. After all when one jumps off a high building, thinking that the law of gravity didn’t apply causes one’s own injuries, our death by behaving so.
By pursuing a Human system that is built on unnatural overconsumption, ruthless competition, success, survival at each other’s and Nature’s expense - that goes totally against Nature’s laws - we are inflicting crisis, social breakdown, wars and destruction on ourselves, not to mention the Natural catastrophes we are also causing.
So overall we can express the same notion in different languages for different audiences. At this stage from the viewpoint of Human survival it doesn’t matter whose laws we need to keep, God’s laws of the laws of Nature, they both point in the same direction. If we keep those laws and integrate with each other, safeguard our survival in compatibility with the laws we need to keep, we will start to understand who wise dates equate “God/Creator” with “Nature”.