The inherently individualistic Human needs to for into Nature’s integral, collectivist system

Opinion from the Internet on individualism, collectivism:

The similarities between a collective and individualist identity is that both persons would be aware of themself as a unique identity as a person and capable of making their own choices.

The concept of collective and individualist identity is better understood by their contrast.

The collectivist mind accepts that they serve a greater whole and the well-being of the whole also serves their own individual well-being… a rising tide raises all boats philosophy. A collectivist would defer to what serves the interests of the family or group first.

The individualist is aware that they function within a greater community, yet their interest is first how the community will serve their needs.

Yes, your definition is perfect.

What I tried to say before is that regardless of what we think of ourselves - into which group we belong - by birth we are all our individualistic, expecting the world to serve us.

Many people are unaware of it and honestly they consider themselves collectivists. But according to our inherently egocentric, subjective consciousness, perception, program we are unable to make calculations other than for self-interest. It is neither evil nor sinful, we are born this way.

It is this unique self-awareness, serving the self at the expense of the collective, the ruthless, exclusive competition at each other’s and Nature’s expense that drove Human history, all our achievements, constant growth. This separates Humanity from other animals that never leave the boundaries of Nature’s integral system and its collectivist laws.

On the other hand since we are integral parts of Nature, and since Nature is “collectivist” - based on seamless integration, mutual cooperation, subsequent balance and homeostasis - we will have to learn how to adapt our inherently individualistic, egotistic, subjective nature into the integral, interdependent, collectivist system we exist in.

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Zsolt Hermann

I am a Hungarian-born Orthopedic surgeon presently living in New Zealand, with a profound interest in how mutually integrated living systems work.